So what are some of the varients cedars?
Don't leave us hanging!
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i know for a fact that our beloved hero sparlock has been given a different name in at least one other language version of the "become jehovah's friend" dvd.
caleb has also been given a different name in the same video.
obviously it makes a degree of sense to rename caleb according to names that are common in various different countries.
So what are some of the varients cedars?
Don't leave us hanging!
om
well, i got a brand new bovine valve, june 21 was the date.
three hour surgery,no other problems.
four day stay in the hospital was the plan,however, i caught a body rash and had to be held over for four more days.
Thanks for the update Blueblades.
Glad to hear things are progressing well.
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the following is from the comments section of the independent article about the 22 year old jw with sickle cell anaemia who died in england last week while refusing blood.
maria makes aguest sound laconic so i don't blame you if you can't be bothered reading it all but the jw cliches and lies are all too familiar.
i'm guessing she is at the thursday meeting about now so maybe she will respond again later.. .
Excellent work cofty!!
I also loved the ring of "virtual North Korea".
Just a nit-pick, but I think "virtual China" is probably a more accurate description of JWs access to information.
As you know JWs are allowed to watch the news, read the newspaper, etc. Just no "unapproved" sources.
Keep up the good fight.
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2 hours and no response?
Please don't take it personally.
There have been a bazillion Sparlock threads and I'm guessing people are beginning to burn out. Just a little.
Sparlock's great!!!
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i see a lot of mentions about hospitality after the public talk and honestly, i guess it is a practice that was not in the ny/ct area i grew up in or here in south florida today.. i grew up with an elder father and grandfather who gave public talks and were generally well-liked.
as a child, i never recall being invited to someone's house after the meeting.
granted, it was rare to travel more than an hour but regardless, it was typical to get in the car and head home after the "amens.
In our part of the greater San Francisco Bay Area OFFERING hospitality is the norm for the Talk Coordinator. He asks: "And, will you be able to stay for hospitality?" (Yes/No) "And how many will be coming with you so "the friends" can plan accordingly?"
On average, only about 50% of speakers around here stay for the whole meeting and hospitality.
There was one congregation in Oakland (can't remember the name now) that was well-known for always having a big Book Study potluck (oops, can't say "luck") for any visiting speaker. It truly felt like hospitality.
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my wife and i are thinking of moving our family to a better place in the us....away from jw family and out of the southern bible belt.
just curious how many of you live around co and, more specifically, near fort collins?
of course, we're open to any city that is less conservative and has awesome summer weather and outdoor activities.
Quendi: Here? (Just to piss off Zid.)
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Good for the both of you!
What's does being a Royal Engineer involve?
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alan'swife, julie, talked to the cardiologist this morning.
the news about alan's heart is good.
he described the heart attack as mild and said that although there is damage to the lower portion of his heart, the pumping action probably won't be affected much.
Wishing you a speedy recovery Alan.
Your writings helped me greatly in my early true-believing days.
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i got this "privilege" thrust upon me for about 6 months many years ago.
i was a hubby, father of young children, service committee member, working 2 jobs and then this.
it truly is a thankless task.
Towards the end of my very short TC career, I came up with a partial solution to the problem of "no shows".
When either the incoming speaker or his TC would give me a last-minute call to cancel, I would ask if he had a replacement available. Amazingly, about 50% of the time, just asking this kind of gave them a virtual smack upside the head and made them realize how they were leaving our congo in the lurch. And THEY would do the scrambling to get a replacement. If he was a "D" quality speaker I really didn't care at that point.
If the TC said "no you'll have to find a replacement yourself" then this was my reply:
OM: "OK, that's fine. I'll just make a note of it in my file that your congregation handles cancellations by having the hall RECEIVING the speaker arrange for a replacement, is that right?"
(Long pause.)
Other TC: "Uhhhh, welllll, ummmmm. "
(After enough time has passed for a certain amount of discomfort to build.)
OM: "Hey, it's no big deal, I just want to make sure we're on the same page as to how cancellations should be handled. So in the future, if one of our speakers has to cancel, we'll be sure to let you know ASAP so that you can arrange a replacement. No problem."
Of those who let it go this far, about half decided to do the scramble themselves, and about half said "Yeah, OK, that's how we'll handle it." I made sure to let my successor know of these convos.
Good times.
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i got this "privilege" thrust upon me for about 6 months many years ago.
i was a hubby, father of young children, service committee member, working 2 jobs and then this.
it truly is a thankless task.
PaintedToeNail: Thank you for the reminder that there are lots of really decent JWs out there, just trying to live a somewhat healthy, "normal" life, even though it really can't be normal inside Watchtower walls.
JRK: "Did you get stuck arranging the "hospitality" crap too?"
No. Well, not as part of being Talk Coordinator. The Talk Coordinator just entered the name of a Book Study Group on the line for hospitality. As Book Study Overseer, I had the responsibility to make sure it was covered whenever it was our group's turn to cover hospitality. So, at least 50% of the time, when it was our "groups" turn, we ended up taking care of hospitality.
00dad: "I just felt this all-too-familiar unpleasant dread until I saw them actually in the hall and ready to go! "
Yeah, I always had a couple of outlines that my family was sick and tired of that I could give in my sleep if there was a no-show.
dozy: "The previous holder had made a total mess of it & I literally was given it on a Thursday & there wasn't anyone scheduled to give a talk the next Sunday ( or any Sunday after that. )"
Exactly. Our previous TC got all his "privileges" removed in one fell swoop and so this particular piece of shrapnel landed in my lap.
snakes: Sounds like your aptitudes and personal situation made you an ideal Talk Coordinator.
zoiks: "I remember getting cornered at the CA by the other coordinators - they had all brought their scheduling materials and wanted to meet during lunch to swap speakers the way you might swap baseball cards."
A couple years after my time as TC, they started doing a once-a-year swap meet for speakers in our area. If your TC missed that "meet" your congo was screwed for the next 12 months.
Let's face it, the JWs definitely don't want speakers who are good critical thinkers and can convey that in a talk. But there are plenty of other aspects of public speaking that made the difference between boring and at least somewhat attention-keeping. Hence the "A", "B", "C" grades given by PaintedToeNail's hubby.
Here's where it gets really tough for a Talk Coordinator if he's from a KH with only 3 or 4 speakers who are approved to give talks in other Congos. That was the case for me for my short tenure as TC. We had one "A" speaker, one "B" speaker and the other 2 were definite "D"s as far as boredom goes. Good luck getting another TC to send a speaker if all you can offer is a "D" or maybe even no speaker at all since our body count was so low.
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